Curse

Panais · Jun 15, 2008, 04:49 PM // 16:49

Will a +2 shadow rune with a +1helm work? or do i need the +3 rune because it seems no1 is selling it

Kyomi Tachibana · Jun 15, 2008, 04:56 PM // 16:56

[Shadow [email protected]] + 20% Enchant = 36 second Duration.

[Glyph of Swiftness] + [Deadly Paradox] + [Shadow [email protected]] = 30 second recharge.

In short. Yes

(They haven't updated the icons yet, I think.)

Panais · Jun 15, 2008, 05:02 PM // 17:02

ok thanks man, and the icons dont have PvE,PvP application yet

Kiluna · Jun 15, 2008, 05:27 PM // 17:27

13 Shadow Arts + 20% enchants is enough to perma SF (27s+20% = 32s), it will be harder, but still possiple. So all you need is +1 from mask and 12 SA

Abedeus · Jun 15, 2008, 05:53 PM // 17:53

Why only +1 shadow arts? Minor Shadow Arts is really easy to get for 600-800g.

Infectious · Jun 15, 2008, 06:06 PM // 18:06

It perma shadow form is possble with helm +1. Although it doesn't leave much room for error.

oliverrr1989 · Jun 15, 2008, 07:21 PM // 19:21

is it possible with 15 SA and a 19% enchant?

Shayne Hawke · Jun 15, 2008, 07:27 PM // 19:27

For what perma-SF can get you in farming, I'd think buying the Superior rune would be worth the investment, right?

Quote:

Originally Posted by oliverrr1989

is it possible with 15 SA and a 19% enchant?

You should go take a math class if you can't figure that out yourself.

Yes, it still works.

Taisayacho · Jun 15, 2008, 07:48 PM // 19:48

Yes, the +3 is definitely worth the investment. Made about 40k (9 ectos) in about an hour yesterday ^^

Panais · Jun 15, 2008, 09:18 PM // 21:18

lol just did my first run and only got 2 ectos, is that normal? because i can get that on w/rt in half the time

Kyomi Tachibana · Jun 15, 2008, 09:20 PM // 21:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Panais

lol just did my first run and only got 2 ectos, is that normal? because i can get that on w/rt in half the time

It all depends on luck. I got 10 ectos my first run, but 3 on the next.

How long are you taking?

My runs are down to about 25 minutes~ if the spawns don't suck.

Kiluna · Jun 16, 2008, 07:07 AM // 07:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abedeus

Why only +1 shadow arts? Minor Shadow Arts is really easy to get for 600-800g.

I was just pointing it out that you can do it with 12+1 and 20% enchant mod, before someone else asks "can i do it with this" :P

Abedeus · Jun 16, 2008, 07:10 AM // 07:10

Well duh, but it's better buy a mask +1 AND a minor rune, so its 14 shadow mastery. Although Superior Shadow Rune would be the best - there were so many times I almost didn't make it with energy thanks to low duration of SF...

Kiluna · Jun 16, 2008, 09:52 AM // 09:52

You obviously missed my point... i was not saying what is best and what not, i was just saying that you CAN do it without any rune, so people don't have to ask "is 14 enough?" or something... And i don't have energy problems, i almost always refresh SF at recharge anyway (exception being if i really want to cast something before it).

Flav · Jun 21, 2008, 05:56 AM // 05:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Abedeus

Why only +1 shadow arts? Minor Shadow Arts is really easy to get for 600-800g.

Because +1 to Shadow Arts from a Grail of Might is good enough for an E/A which has more more energy and does more damage than an A/E.